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DanielS

Member

From: Gainesville, GA.

Registered: 2005-08-29

Posts: 1

Multi-positions, 1 program

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Is there an easy way to flip parts in VERICUT. I am using the MoveCutStockFromCsys and MoveCutStockToCsys macros with Coordinate systems (CSYS). This is very difficult when you are using a 3 axis vertical milling machine and have 3 to 4 flips and/or rotates of a part all in one program. The only way to achive this is by trial and error, I just keep trying until it looks right. This can consume a lot of time when you are trying to prove-out 4 or 5 programs a day. I spend most of the day trying to figure out which way the CSYS is set for the next flip. Is there an easier way?

chaddy Summy

Member

From: Brisbane, OZ

Registered: 2005-06-21

Posts: 12

Re: Multi-positions, 1 program

Hi Daniel.. I set up a code in my controller file to recognise a comment, thus being ignored by the machine, as a command like:

(reposition from position1 to position2 Hi Mum)

in word format use..

(reposition Macro - None
from Macro - Alphanumeric
To Macro - Alphanumeric
Hi Mum) Special - ignore

in word/address enter into specials..

From ** move cutstock from csys
To ** move cutstock to csys

In setup/co-ord system/define add position1 & position2 etc for however many positions you need and then enter the figures and it should work.

I'd upload pictures but this site won't allow it

As for the actual positions you have to figure them out or use the cumbersome vericut 'allign/mate' features. I find it easier to get the figures for each position in PowerMILL or whatever else. Using one main datum also helps

vhubbard

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From: Dallas, TX

Registered: 2004-11-11

Posts: 222

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Re: Multi-positions, 1 program

We "flop" parts automatically via the program.  To do this you need:
1.  Our CAM system outputs a uniquely named "Matrix" definition for each orientation/flop change.   

2.The post grabs this and uses the 12 values, remapped in a different order for Vericut.  The data  can define a Vericut Matrix or a Coordinate system, within (  ) per Vericut standards.  Vericut then reads and uses these on the fly.  They should be ignored as comments at the machine.

3. With a Matrix The part cuts right, but the machine view of the part is wrong.

4. Using the Coordinate system and the Repositon command from the toolpath, The part moves on the machine and looks right.   If you miss the flop definition in the CAM system, it does not line up correctly on the machine, but will still cut correctly in Vericut. (5.4.x is what we are using)

The machine file has to be defined correctly for stock and design files.  The control settings need to enable the reposition of the design model along with the stock.   Using the MACRO "MoveDesignWithStock" and an             OVERRIDE_VALUE  of 1

The Vericut opening/demo part shows the "flop" and other commands being keyed from the start of the 2nd toolpath, but does not show how to define the Matrix or Coordinate system from within the toolpath.   The coordinate systems named position1 and position2 are pre-defined. 

You can use any name for Coordinate systems and do multiple flops within a tape.

Contact CGTech and ask for a -complete- set of demo files showing how all this works.